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Timothy: Jacob, I don’t think I’ve ever asked you. What’s your favorite season of the year?
Jacob: Falls up there on the list if I had to choose fall.
Timothy: If you had to choose, I mean, if you’re like put in the corner but Easter whatever.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: You would have to admit that.
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: You got some fortitude. Yeah, it’s fall time on or at least we’re getting taste of it anyway. It’s nice to see the leaves kind of falling down and landing on the ground. We’re going to talk about Biden but mostly Trump. Biden’s a little too easy where he is spiritually, which is anything good. Anything noble he opposes. Kind of settles it down. But we want to look and see what is it that God is doing. Not who Biden is or who Trump is. For that matter, nobody should take this podcast as that were for Biden or against Biden or for Trump or against Trump. The truth is, I’m for Biden and I’m for Trump to bless them and the Lord to call them to repentance. But this isn’t really about political stuff. This is about what spiritually is going on and what God is doing. Our focus is not upon political events and the things that I mean the next what year is going to be very interesting to watch.
Let’s just put it that way with every and the dynamics going on. It’s both scary at the same time and interesting in all the different angles that it’s coming out. Let’s go to Job chapter 12 verse 22. I’ve always found the book of Job to be very valuable. Most people don’t use it in terms of actually gaining wisdom because you know, you correct me if I’m wrong. These broad-brush strokes sometimes can get a little bit complicated, but I think people tend to think because Job was justified by God the people talking to him that his friends didn’t have anything really realistic to say. There’s a lot of things in Job that his friends said that are correct about God. Well, a lot of what God was dealing with there was attitude and heart. And I don’t want to get pulled off into the book of Job just to say there’s a lot of things. Remember a wedding that I did many, many, many decades ago. I began with the book of Job and one of the best men or somebody up there turned to the groom and go he’s starting your wedding with the book of Job. You can tell I not too popular just because I have the complete word of God.
Jacob: People shouldn’t call you. I mean they could call in and ask for you to marry them all. We don’t recommend that.
Timothy: No, I don’t recommend that all out of the marrying business unless. Now there is one wedding that I will do. I will point you to Jesus Christ his family and to be a part of the wedding that I’m going to be a part of. Nice try there, mister Jacob we don’t even put out a number for people to call for that.
Jacob: Well, on the website they could they could submit requestion or whatever.
Timothy: No, you’re just supposed to agree. You’re supposed to.
Jacob: Oh, but it is true. There’s no ****.
Timothy: Well now you’re going to be setting me up. I’m going to be getting these requests.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: Yeah. Really? I think I’m going to get requests.
Jacob: Yeah, probably not.
Timothy: And keep talking. We could go off on another tangent.
Jacob: Yeah. We could.
Timothy: I don’t mind doing it as long as we’re honest and you know what I mean by that.
Jacob: Well, everybody now knows you’re going to start with Job.
Timothy: Yeah, so it makes it easy right?
Jacob: Makes it easy.
Timothy: So, there’s all these grooms and what brides are saying, thank you. Brides are saying oh let’s have him. I want to start with the book of Job worst kid or the Garden of Eden Genesis works well for a wedding. Oh yeah. Job chapter 12 verse 22. Jacob, go ahead and read 22-25. I got to figure out how to get even now throughout this podcast.
Jacob: “He reveals the deep things of darkness and brings deep shadows into the light. He makes nations great and destroys them. He enlarges nations and disperses them. He deprives the leavers of the earth of their reason. He sends them wandering through it. Trackless waste They grope in darkness with no light. He makes them stagger like drunkards”.
Timothy: Doesn’t Job 12:24 & 25 sound like the current election that we’re going through?
Jacob: Yeah, pretty much.
Timothy: You have verse 24 of Job twelve he deprives the leaders of the earth of their reason. When you look at the Democratic platform or whatever they stand for. There’s no logical reason for what’s going on. Remember in our last podcast I said, well, what’s his point? What what’s he making? And I’ve kind of come to because I keep thinking about it. I don’t think people know how to make a point.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: They just kind of ramble on and we make some platitudes statements and say some things are true but there’s not really points being made and then I got to think about other people who actually do make points or the ones that get in trouble. So, when we look at the Democratic Party, they don’t make any points. They’re deprived of reasoning. They won’t go any deeper than an initial statement and we’ll see that here in a little bit. Then, I look at Trump And he’s just groping along. Granted there’s a lot of things coming at him. But you have to see God is the one going okay United States people or the world for that matter. Because no telling who’s actually voting. Look at the two choices you have here. You can choose between that which is completely senile and old and it’s staggering along. It literally is falling down. It’s so old. United States forsook God long time ago and God’s been kicked out of every angle even discussion. So, when we look at Biden what we see is the fruit or judgment of that coming. God is depriving the United States of logic. I mean it’s only in the United States where a woman is not defined as a woman and a man is not defined as a man. You don’t find that in the rest of the world. Now we keep trying to Export that insanity. So, you can see God is actually the one working and allowing you because let us understand it’s God is the author of life and it is God who gives us ability to reason and to think and to be logical. Because let man left himself will come to all kinds of terrible conclusions no matter how logically they may sound. Sometime I hope to do a podcast and some things that logically you can spell out. We kind of have fun with that in our private time with each other when we see each other, Jacob.
Jacob: Sure.
Timothy: Don’t we will so okay this logically all fits out but the conclusion is completely wrong. In verse 25 it says, “They grope in darkness with no light”. We see that a lot within Trump. There’s a groping but nothing ever really gets done. Biden staggers and Trump gropes. He’s trying to grab on something to make it happen. If you’ll notice there’s one thing about Trump’s presidency, he never actually accomplished anything he set out to do. That’s why when I hear him promise to take care of the deep state or return these rights. He does not appear to have that ability. When push comes to shove, he always picks the wrong people. He can never make a or tape decisions. Now we can break down why that might be. But I think it’s really just God going look Trump will claim to follow God. Biden claims to have faith but neither one are pursuing the living God according to the truth. And so, God is giving us what we want. It’s as if there really is. It’s like Genesis chapter 25 verse 21. Let’s go to that for a moment and look at it. We’ve got two nations in one spirit. You’ve got Biden who is already betrayed us. We already know he sold us out to foreign powers. So, Biden is betrayal and Trump is inept. We’ve kind of talked about that ourselves Jacob when we’ve talked about the Republicans right? What’s that word that we would say that that epiPaulizes them completely.
Jacob: Greed, money.
Timothy: Greed, money. Well actually they both come back to that.
Jacob: Well true.
Timothy: That’s an absolute statement. Everything always comes back to money. Which means it doesn’t come back to the living God because to follow the living God to have a Christianity that is true. You have to what Jacob?
Jacob: Hate and despise money.
Timothy: Hate despise money. Since neither one of these guys do this, they love money. Granted that’s a reflection of the Christianity or the faith that’s out there but that’s just the truth. When I think of Trump, I think of just in that. Nothing ever really gets accomplished. There’s a lot of talk a lot of flattery, there’s a lot of, I’ve appointed people here to do that but the end of the day nothing quite gets done. I mean does he succeed in some foreign policies and things like. Yeah, he knows how to bring people together in terms of that, but not in terms of morality holiness, freedom of speech, those kinds of things. Let’s go to Genesis chapter 25 verse 21. Says, “Isaac prayed to the Lord on behalf of his wife. Because she was barren. The Lord answered his prayer and his wife Rebecca became pregnant”. Now verse 21 of Genesis 25 says, “The babies jostled each other within her”. We see this going on the essence. This is kind of jostling back and forth as grabbing and pushing and shoving and just kind of going at each other. For all of Rebecca and who she is, it says that she didn’t just write this off of. Oh, they’re so cute, they’re wrestling in the womb and I can really, oh feel this honey and all that, right. She doesn’t do that. What does she do, Jacob?
Jacob: She went to inquire of the Lord.
Timothy: That’s really to her benefit. It’s sad. It’s I don’t know there may be some people that really do see God but when pregnancies are happening and things are going. We should see God and what is going on in the womb. I think most of the time what people are doing today if we were to read this today. So, Isaac prayed to bless Rebecca in having children and we pray for success. We pray for health of the children. There’s not an inquiring of, well God, what are you working here and what is going on here? So, there’s a big difference between asking God to bless things according to what we want. And inquiring of God to actually what is going on? So why is this happening to me, Rebecca says? So, she went to inquire of the Lord. Huge bonus points there. So, the Lord said to her he answered. It reminds me of James. If any of you likes wisdom, ask. God gives generously to all without finding fault. He wants us to be a wise people. Doesn’t necessarily translate that we become holy or that we become good. What it does say, look, come ask me. Dialogue with me. We know Rebecca wasn’t exactly the most holy spiritual person, right? She was an idolater in a few other minor details.
Jacob: She was like hiding idols, spiritual father.
Timothy: Yeah.
Jacob: Technically, it wasn’t a lot of good things.
Timothy: So, in this one case though, she went directly to God and did it. Exactly. Now go and read twenty-three there and see what the Lord says, Jacob.
Jacob: The Lord said to her. “Two nations are in your womb and two peoples from within you will be separated. One people will be stronger than the other. And the older will serve the younger”.
Timothy: The only thing I’m really wanting to see here is that in small ways translate to big things. So, when we look at Biden and we look at Trump, we need to be asking, well Lord, what is it you’re working here? God is not and one thing we’ve come to the conclusion is God is not working two different nations here. It’s not like Biden is this evil wicked atheist. He’s a bad Catholic and Trump is this holy righteous protestant and so there’s two nations. There’s one that will lead to rival and there’s one that won’t. They’re both equal. One has betrayed the United States and one is in the process of betraying the United States, because they won’t seek the living God. We’re just looking at today the faith claim that Biden and Trump have and compare that to what God is actually doing, because what God is doing is laying before the United States two worthless options. And so, what did I just say there Jacob?
Jacob: Two worthless options.
Timothy: I would just see if you’re paying attention. Two were options. Biden’s worthless. Trouble’s going to come about because of that. The persecution that will come upon Christians will be huge. And when I say Biden, I mean Democrats. If they continue to hold onto that power base think bad, bad, bad things are going to happen in a persecution level. In the state of Washington, they’re all gearing up to come after Christians. Make no mistake about that. And we’ll see a little taste of that here in a little bit. That’s one option.
The other option is Trump who will do a good talk and will offer a false hope and we think it’s going to protect us and save us and we’re going to return to make America again and we’ll be able to have freedom of speech and religion will gain some victories. But if there’s one thing Trump has demonstrates he’s inept. So, what God is really saying here is look you got persecution you got but here’s Jesus Christ and becoming a disciple. And for that without advertising, because you can just get it free. If you want to get started on really becoming a disciple of Jesus without compromise, pursuing true holiness and getting ready to survive if Trump is elected or survive if Biden is elected or really anybody else. Start with becoming a disciple of Jesus and leaving behind the worthless Christianity, the powerful delusion, the cultural Christianity that is around you. Jacob, let’s go ahead. Well, you got anything you want to say to all of that before we step a little bit more into this?
Jacob: No, I think it’s pretty clear though that yeah, at this point if Biden is elected, if the Democrats win you know it’s going to get really bad fast. And if Trump is elected, that just the breaks got pumped. And like you said, like nothing’s really going to change you’re just holding back the bad things that the Democrats were going to do. But it’s a delusion to think that if Trump’s in office, then America’s going to. No, all you’re going to do is you’re going to maybe buy yourself four years. That’s it. There’s no changing America if Trump is back in, you’ll just pump the brakes.
Timothy: And I’m torn. On the one hand, it’s like okay Biden let’s just bring it on Let’s do the sifting in the church. Let’s weed out really who loves Jesus Christ and who doesn’t. Let’s get rid of the people that constantly are in the way of people living sound doctrine, the complete gospel message. Let’s bring Biden on. On the other hand, well, bring Trump in. Let’s hold back some of this so we can warn more. Fortunately, I don’t have the wisdom and it’s totally up to God but that’s the dilemma here of which direction we go. So far, the church has proven that the only people that need to repent are Democrats. I mean, or everybody else or me for that matter. They’re the ones that need to repent, but you don’t see the church or the new conservative outlets or the Christian news outlets repenting of anything.
Jacob: No.
Timothy: They’re not adding one single doctrine onto what they already believe probably 30 years ago, or 10 weeks ago. There’s no addition. It’s all the same recycle false hope and that’s what Biden I mean that’s what Trump is feeding into and that’s what Biden wants to destroy and God’s using them both to wrestle this thing out and it really is a wrestling process. Remember what our definition of a democracy is, Jacob?
Jacob: No, it’s not coming to me right now.
Timothy: Alright, we’ll go to page 3 on the notes and I bet that’ll remind you. It’ll be Psalms 106 verse 15. Psalms 106 verse 15. Go ahead and read that. Oh, you want me to read it?
Jacob: No, I’m just getting there.
Timothy: Are you getting there?
Jacob: Psalm 106. I can read it.
Timothy: Sure, go for it.
Jacob: “So, he gave them what they asked for but sent a wasting disease upon them”.
Timothy: That’s American democracy in one scripture. Brings it all together. We asked for Biden will get Biden. We asked for Trump. We’re going to get Trump. And then the wasting disease because we’ve chosen that which is impure and ungodly at the end of the day. God sent a wasting disease. And is United States wasting away?
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: And the whole world says that. Before we start preaching too much more on that. Go ahead and play this next clip and this is Biden and Trump talking about their faith, their belief, the Bibles, and so on. Video Clip (Biden): Faith is what has gotten me through difficult times in my life and I lost my wife and daughter when my son hit stage four glioblasPaula as a matter of months. Personally, for me, faith is all about hope and purpose and strength. And for me, my religion is just an enormous sense of solace. I go to mass and I say the rosary. I find it to be incredibly comforting. Kierkegaard said, “Faith sees best in the dark”. Think of all the people who are going through horrible things and they get up every morning and they put one foot in front of the other. I marvel at people to absorb hurt and just get back up and I’m absolutely thoroughly convinced and optimistic about the prospects of this country. No, I really mean it. There is nothing. There is nothing you can’t do.
Timothy: You can’t see this. I’m talking over. Just keep playing it. This is where Biden state inappropriate things. Kind of pot stopper right there, Jacob. We’ll come back to Trump here in a moment. Isn’t that creepy?
Jacob: Super pervy.
Timothy: I mean, the other go man, this is nasty.
Jacob: There was the one lady who he’s kind of holding and she kind of gives like a who? Like, oh okay.
Timothy: Yep. Yep. And you could go on and on. I was trying.
Jacob: Oh yeah. You could totally.
Timothy: That is the Democratic Party. They are lawless with sexual immorality. They’re lawless in every angle. There’s anything that they’re lawful about. The only thing that they’re lawful about is passing laws that are lawless. Right?
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: In Romans 16:16, in first Corinthians 16:20, in second Corinthians 13:12, in first Thessalonians 5:26, they all say the same thing. Which is, “Greet all everyone with a holy kiss”. Greet everyone with a holy kiss. Biden and his touching, his breathing, his sniffing, what he’s doing. It’s about as unholy as you can get. And yet he claims to have faith and hope. And you’ll notice his discussion is really platitudes.
Jacob: Oh yeah.
Timothy: He’s not saying anything.
Jacob: No hope.
Timothy: Pain, suffering.
Jacob: Yeah. Through all of his supposed faith statements. It he literally brings it down to he likes to recite the rosary and like you can change and you can do anything. You can wake up in the morning and you can have hope. Okay as this, okay.
Timothy: Alright and you’ll notice there he does say the one religious thing he does is say the rosary.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: So, he has this icon and all the protestants go oh well that’s worthless.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: You’re saying the rosary and all that kind of stuff. Someday we hope to do a show on his pope actually a Christian. But anyway, so he has this thing he’s holding onto, right? That this icon, an activity. It’s the thing that is holy that he brings close to himself to signify that he’s holy, right? Alright. So, we’ve established that Biden’s old, he’s senile, he’s betraying, he’s rejected God, he’s lawless, it’s full of chaos, and he’s hostile to everything that is good and reasonable or limited or self-disciplined anyway. The next part of this video is going to be Trump talking about his faith and we’re going to see they’re actually the same just coming out in different and who you’re appealing to. Now remember Trump is impure. There’s nothing him that’s consistent. He’s loaded with flattery. Even when he’s talking about his enemies he’ll throw in some flattery over here, which by the way is a terrible sin. He gives lip service to God. Trump really is a reflection of today’s Christianity on the Protestant side and Biden’s is the abstracts. What am I trying to say here? Faith in God and that can encompass anybody saying they believe in God or maybe even tack on Jesus. Either way and again with Trump we’ve talked about before he’s powerless to act. There’s no victory. It’s because of the sin that’s in his life he’s not repented of. And he’ll state that in so many words if you’re paying attention. Jacob, go ahead and play the rest of that particular clip. Video Clip (Trump): I brought my Bible. Okay?
Timothy: Okay pause it there. What did Biden have? Rosary beads.
Jacob: Rosaries, yeah.
Timothy: And what does Trump have?
Jacob: He’s got his Bible.
Timothy: His Bible. It brings out memories. We’ll notice here in a moment. And we’re also talking about Trump in this that’s why I’m focusing on him. Biden there’s really not much to say. Corrupt, evil, vile, staggering, yeah don’t go. You know no one who’s a Democrat should be on a jury. That when you go in, the prosecutor should go, okay, who in here is a Democrat? They should be excluded from jury duty. Because there’s nothing about these people that have a thinking process. You can’t be a disciple of Jesus and be a democratic. They’re contrary to each other is darkness is delight. In the same way, a Democrat doesn’t reason things out. They only want what’s lawless. They have no sense of self-discipline or holiness, and they actively pursue to persecute and prosecute anybody who suggest that there should be some limits or laws on behavior. So, they’re just disqualified to start with. That’s why in King County Washington State and Seattle Washington State. Remember, we talked about this before the prosecutors do Jacob when it came to Democrat or Republican? Do you remember?
Jacob: No, I don’t remember.
Timothy: They went and had the prosecutor’s office declared being independent.
Jacob: Oh yeah, it’s independent, yeah.
Timothy: They no longer have to state whether they’re Republican or Democrat.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: The prosecutors just love the darkness. I mean, they’re like pigs wallowing in this thing. So, what happens is the actual prosecutor in King County started that with 26:11 Sattiesburg and he came along and said, oh you know what? You get pigeon. I don’t know what his reason was. I’m not even going to go there, but he stripped that way. So, when you vote, you’re only voting ignorantly because it’s not like the prosecutors lay out exactly what they believe. There’s a questionnaire to go well how would you vote in this or how would you come with that? So, we’re getting the most dark lawless prosecutors possible that can hide and come in. And of course, it doesn’t stop with 26:36 Sattiesburg removing the political affiliation, then the prosecutors in the next counties went and it went down the line. Now you just really don’t even know who you’re voting for. The current prosecutor then is able to go in and promote oh we prosecuted this. We prosecuted that and then the knee jerk people will just keep voting for the same foolish darkness over and over again. I know I got sidetracked there, but it’s highly important for us to understand how much darkness every day and little ways we don’t even realize are being pulled into the situation. The darkness is creeping up on us. We don’t realize it. Alright, so let’s go. Now, Trump has his Bible and that’s his rosary beads. Go for it.
Video Clip (Trump): First Presbyterian Church, Jamaica and this was written by my mother with my name, with my, it’s a long time ago, with my name, with address with everything in case I lost it somebody would return it. In the old days, if you lost something they returned it. Today, a little bit less so. But I saw this and I said I have to bring it and just show it because it brings back so many memories.
Man: Well, let me ask you because one of the potential attack lines has to do with an answer you gave to Frank Lawrence months ago when you said that you’ve never asked God for forgiveness. Do you regret making that remark?Trump: No, I have great relationship God. I have great relationship with the evangelicals. In fact, nationwide. I’m up by a lot. I’m leading everybody but I like to be good. I don’t like to have to ask for forgiveness and I am good. I don’t do a lot of things that are bad. I try and do nothing that’s bad. I live a very different life than probably a lot of people would think. I have a very great relationship with God and I have a very great relationship with the evangelicals and I think that why I’m doing so well with Iowa. Two Corinthians, right? Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ball game. Where the spirit of the Lord, right? Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty and here there is Liberty College, but Liberty University, but it is so true. When you think and that’s really, is that the one, is that the one you like? I think that’s the one you like because I loved it and it’s so representative of what’s the in place. The Bible certainly is one of, if not, I mean, it is the book. Let’s pray together, may we? I believe in God. I am Christian. I’m a Protestant. I’m very proud of it. Presbyterian to be exact. I’m Presbyterian. Boy, that’s down the middle of the road folks in all fairness. I mean 7th day Adventist I don’t know about. I have great relationship with God. I have great relationship with the evangelicals. And I go to church a lot. Always on Christmas always on Easter. Always when there’s a major occasion. And during the Sundays. I’m a Sunday church person. I like to do the right thing where I don’t have to actually ask for forgiveness. When go in church and when I drink my little wine which is about the only wine I drink and have my little cracker. I guess that’s a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed. We were having fun when I said, I drink the wine, I eat the cracker. I do something wrong. I think I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture.
Man: My wife and I pray for you.Trump: Thank you. Well, I need it probably more than anybody in this room. You can stay if you want it because you need the prayer more I do, I think. I want to just pray for Arnold if we can for those ratings. I can understand the evangelicals to a certain extent saying, well, maybe he’s not as nice as we want him to be but they also want to see the country be great.
Lady: Why do you think those voters are drawn to you?Trump: Well, I’m Protestant. I’m Presbyterian which means something. Maybe he’s not as perfect on the Bible. But I did go to Sunday school for many years. I want to tell you. I get sent Bibles by a lot of people.
Man: Where are all those Bibles anyhow now?Trump: Well actually we keep them in a certain place. A very nice place. My second favorite book of all time. What’s my first favorite book? The Bible. The Bible is special. The Bible, the more you see it, the more you read it, the more incredible it is.
Man 2: Old Testament guy or New Testament?
Trump: Probably equal. Proverbs, the chapter never bend to envy. I’ve had that thing all of my life where people are bending to envy. Two Corinthians, right? Two Corinthians 3:17. That’s the whole ball game. There’s no way I would ever do anything to do negative to a Bible. God is the ultimate. I mean, God created this and here’s the Pacific Ocean right behind us. So, Nobody, nothing, no, there’s nothing like God.
Timothy: Any initial reaction there Jacob?
Jacob: Anybody who is like hook, line, and sinker that Trump is a Christian. He’s a Godly man. You’re just like believing a delusional lie. I mean it’s just not real. Anybody, you could have probably any like body language expert, right? People that study how you speak and it’s like not even genuine. It’s genuine in that he probably knows that he’s conning people.
Timothy: You become speechless as you put that together. You really do it’s like.
Jacob: This is the epiPaule of yeah, it’s crazy.
Timothy: And when evangelical Christians or Protestants like him or call him a Christian or lay hands on him, that tells me where they are at.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: And just how bad things are. Again, God might lead me to vote for Trump but that I’m not laying my hands on him.
Jacob: No.
Timothy: Scripture says to be very slow on that matter anyway. And I’m not calling him. He’s not a Christian. I would be there calling him to repentance and teaching him what that is.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: What’s one of the, I don’t know if you picked up on it. But what’s one of the number one signs that somebody’s really not familiar with their Bible? I mean it’s pretty obvious.
Jacob: Oh yeah.
Timothy: He doesn’t read it. You can tell that’s something.
Jacob: Oh, because he says two Corinthians.
Timothy: Correct.
Jacob: Everybody, even in Sunday school, he says he went to Sunday school for many years. Everybody, you say second Corinthians.
Timothy: You do, and it and I don’t mean this is a big criticism he’s kind of pointing that out because I know some people, they do some things for me. They’re not Christians but of course they’re not claimed to be but they always two Corinthians.
Jacob: Yeah, we have content that’s been done on this show.
Timothy: Yeah.
Jacob: And the voice over guys will read it as two Corinthians.
Timothy: That’s just because they’re not familiar with it.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: In Trump’s case, of course, he’s claiming to know God and there’s a whole group of people supporting saying that he’s a Christian or that God is using him or he was born for a time like this. They love to quote that particular passage.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: They don’t realize yes indeed. God is using him to judge them to judge the quote unquote Christian church and those who will not repent. Even those that support him or cause a don’t support him or whatever. God’s using them. That’s true to test to see who we are. Jacob, go to Titus chapter 1 verse 16.
Jacob: Read it?
Timothy: Oh yeah, go for it.
Jacob: “They claim to know God but by their actions they deny him. They’re detestable disobedient and unfit for doing anything good”.
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Timothy: They’re going to ask the question; do we really believe what God’s word says? I know we were talking about a particular ministry before. We were on the show today and you’re just kind of desperate for them. I mean there’s some good, then when we start just getting into the word of God and moving on, they go, well no, you just kind of left wanting. But let’s look at this. They claim to know God. Biden claim to know God. Trump claims to know God. But then you look at their actions, by their actions they deny him. So, it’s not neutral. It’s not like by their actions you will know that they’re not really Christians. What they’re saying is they’re literally turning to God and denying him. I don’t know that Jesus Christ. And that’s what people do when you bring a scripture to them or something that needs to change in their life or you want to discuss and move that direction. And they refuse that or maybe persecuted or in our Case, we also get prosecuted for it. They are literally turning to Jesus Christ and going, I deny you. I want nothing to do with you. I don’t want to share with you. You’re the complete reject of my life. That’s what they’re saying. By their actions, they deny him. So, it’s who they are. It’s their life. It’s their personality. It’s how they approach the word of God. They hang on. Look at Trump. He’s hanging on to one or two scriptures. Isn’t that what most churches, most denominations, they’ve got their list of doctrines and that’s what they hold onto. It never goes any deeper.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: And there’s never any refinement on those who are looking well maybe we’re missing a spiritual point here or we need to somehow repent of it. When you read about revival in the Old Testament, whether the book of Ezra and Nehemiah, the people are heavily convicted and they can’t speak and they can’t work and they can’t function and it’s raining. Now, it’s like, oh, come celebrate your transformation. Give up your pornography, get rid of your leprosy and everybody just goes on. They’re not they won’t come back in hunger and thirst actually for the word of God except maybe to underline it. Alright, well what does God say about them? Because that’s the important part. Says, “They claim to know God but by their actions they deny him”. Okay then what position are they in? So, I’m just going to read this as if it were written to Trump. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good. Trump is fit for doing anything good. Biden on the other hand rejects doing anything good. But Trump is unfit. That’s why he’s inept. He’s not able to do it. His life is not even closer motive to what it would be to be a disciple of Jesus. And so that makes him accountable to God. When he tries to bring about good within the government. There’s no power to do it. Now will God possibly work some good? You bet because he’s holding back the lawlessness that’s going on until he’s ready to pull it out of the way. So, for the sake of the few he will hold back the lawlessness that Trump is doing. So, it’s not Trump that is being powerful in what he’s doing. It’s God saying, in spite of everything, in spite of who he is I’m just going to come in and have mercy. Let’s go to Deuteronomy chapter 13 verse 1 and we’re going to see here what God is doing with Trump to the Protestant side. Again, the Democrat side is so loosey, lawless that what It’s all about faith, hope, and change. Deuteronomy 13:1. God says, “If a prophet or one who foretells by dreams appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place”. Remember in the last days there going to be a lot of false prophets coming doing a lot of signs and wonders. How this is going to apply to Trump here is that God may be using Trump to do some good. But God is testing the Christian church to see who they really follow. And what these people are really following are political things or Trump or what he can do or bring them or hold their life together. They’re not using the opportunity to seek the living God. Otherwise, we would literally see repentance all on the line and we don’t see that. We either see a holding on to a cultural Christianity or smiling jack Jesus’ type Christianity, a rejection of the cross or the churches are getting worse. It really doesn’t matter. They’re both headed in the same direction. “And if a sign or wonder, Deuteronomy 13:2 says, of which he has spoken takes place”. And he says, “let us follow other Gods. God, you have not known and let us worship them”. Verse 13 says, “You must not listen”. Let me repeat that again. Deuteronomy 13 verse 3, “You must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer”. Isn’t Trump a dreamer? We’re going to break America great again. “The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you will love him with all your heart and with all your soul it is the Lord your God you must follow and you must revere keep his commandments and obey him serve him and hold fast to him”. Deuteronomy 13:4. So, this is one giant test. Biden is a test for every Christian out there everybody claiming the name Christian Trump is a test. To find out okay, I’m going to discover that both Biden and Trump are worthless. They’re both unfit for doing anything good. I’m going to look around in my church, look around the ministries, I’m going to look at my own life, and I’ll go, okay Lord, I am not ready for the persecution that is to come, and I’m going to begin to repent, so that I’m only following you no matter what. I’m not going to idolize family. I’m not going to love any aspect of money. I’m going to hate my own life. Again, I can’t, there’s no time to go through the complete gospel right now at the moment. But understand that what’s going on is a single thing of God is testing us with Biden and he’s testing us with Trump. He gives Biden to the lawless and says hey you want that? And they go, okay. Well, now you get your wasting disease. He brings for the religious or the more conservative Christian side Trump. Okay, he’s testing you to see who you’re really following here. Anything you want to add to that Jacob?
Jacob: Nope.
Timothy: Go ahead and play that next clip there and then we’re going to move into a couple more specifics here in Washington State. Video: Here on the Consider Podcast, we strive not to complain about government officials and authorities. Rather, we suffer out prayers for God to grant them his repentance. God often sends his missionaries to government officials by way of their persecutions. Like the apostle Paul, though in chains before a king and governor, he openly prayed for their repentance. Acts 26:26-30. “The king is familiar things and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice because it was not done in the corner. King Agrippa, “Do you believe the prophets? I know you do”. Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?” Paul replied, “Short time or long, I pray God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am? Except for these chains”. The king Rose with him the governor and Bernice and those sitting with them. The Consider Podcast, examining today’s wisdom, madness, and folly. www.archive.consider.info.
Timothy: Let’s move in on a little bit of a local level in Washington State. We’re going to talk about Bob Ferguson and Senator Patty Murray. They kind of bring out some real pivotal point to what’s going on here because if Bob Ferguson actually becomes governor and that’s what he’s running for. He’s the was or is. I don’t know. Attorney General of Washington State, very very lawless but not just lawless. He hates literally goes after grandmothers anything good or Wow. He’s got a committee’s trying to form that will deal with misinformation which really is going to become an oppression for anybody that claims to be a Christian or does anything moral or good. The man is a mocker and he constantly is stirring up the city. That’s one reason Washington State, Seattle, all these places are just kind of melting down. Everybody’s at each other’s throats. All he really knows to do is how to stir up a city in order to gain a power base and that’s what’s Going on. Very empty on the inside, very full of pride, self-righteousness but that’s what Washington State is after. Jacob, let’s go to Proverbs 21 verse 8 in relationship to Bob Ferguson and we’ll read that here in just a second. Remember that singer? What was his name? The Appalachian.
Jacob: Oliver Anthony.
Timothy: Oliver Anthony, and the thing just took off and it went viral, right?
Jacob: Yep.
Timothy: Popularity just coming out of the woodwork.
Jacob: YouTube alone is like 67 million views.
Timothy: Wow. $67 million.
Jacob: That’s what it’s up to. 67 million as of recently. And yeah, crazy popular.
Timothy: That really tells us spiritually where the heart of the nation is at and a good portion of the church for sure. That kind of popularity is that’s a cancer. That’s a problem. Alright, so Bob Ferguson is a mocker, he’s after full of selfish ambition and James says wherever you find selfish ambition you find every disorder and evil practice. Now the reason Bob Ferguson is important and one reason I’m focusing on it because we were going through the Washington State hate crime against us. They were also smacking down grandma, because she wouldn’t arrange flowers for a gay wedding. I mean he nasty went after the whole bit and naturally he whitewashes some of it, but we don’t have time to get into all that. We were going through the crime. Grandma was being taken down. The hate crime was huge. It wasn’t a minor deal. I called his office to go look this is going on. They were actually giving advice to the people that were involved in the hate crime on how to increase the hatred. Now I don’t mean they called him and go; can you tell us how to increase our hatred. That’s not how it works. They call in. They get advice. They’re getting advice and the way this person does the hate crime. I know exactly how she works. She pulls in people to make them accomplish a in the crime. That way they can never turn back on her. It’s very sly, sociopathic, so on. Uh government loves those kinds of people and of course we already know prosecutors and lawyers never backtracked. They never do anything wrong. Okay, so let me back up. So, I’m on the phone with them. We’re going through this whole discussion. And we got into scenarios. I can’t remember exactly which, but I do remember the final words of Bob Ferguson’s offices that I was free to believe what I wanted as long as it was at home. Maybe that. I was free to believe what I wanted as a church, as a Christian, as long as it was at home. Now, they might justify that or say, well, that’s not quite what we meant or wonder, oh no, their hearts were speaking. This is what he’s after. He’s going to try and drive every Christian back into their home and then he’s going to come in and crush them from there on because he’ll have more and more people in this lawless mood to take down Christians. So, we were just some of the first churches brought before the misinformation committee or falsely accused of stuff. Too bad the church pick up on it. This was a pivotal moment hate crime that if they just stood up, we might have been able to push back some of it. Alright, bringing that all around. You have, what was his name again, Anthony?
Jacob: Oliver Anthony.
Timothy: Oliver Anthony, popular music going. So, Bob Ferguson decides that he’s going to tweet that he too experienced the same thing, because Oliver Anthony grew up. His father was playing the songs he grew up at home, right? All this Appalachian stuff. So, Bob Ferguson writes in his tweet, “Cousin Jim who apprentices who was Roger Daltrey in a tribute, band for The Who”. I’m not even sure what he’s saying there. “Surprised everyone at a recent event with his remake of the classic Dylan tune into a ballot about my grassroots politics, with a focus on my first campaign against a 20-year incumbent when I knocked on 22,000 doors”. He tries to mock everything to gain the popularity. That’s the that is there for power. So, the reason these going after grandmas of course because grandmas are easy and it brings in a fundamental base of people that will support them. I mean even the Washington State Supreme Court. One of the judges is gay. She didn’t exclude herself when that trial came up there. When it came up to their attention. None. That was all centered in. They’re going to do that. If they did that back then they’re getting ready now to bring in a whole hard persecution if they can get to it. My point here is where you see selfish ambition you find every evil practice. So now he he’s coming in talking about Cousin Jim and me knocking on doors. It’s all my, my, my. Any comment on any of that Jacob?
Jacob: Oh man what a reach too.
Timothy: Yeah, it looks pathetic.
Jacob: Yeah, it’s like what? Because like Oliver Anthony so then oh Cousin Jim and then Cousin Jim took this song and he you know in remake all about me.
Timothy: Dylan.
Jacob: I’m sorry, but you’re telling me that people actually even care about encumberment and him knocking on 22,000. Like you’re just boasting. I don’t know. The whole thing is actually weird.
Timothy: It’s weird, but it brings out exactly what he is, and he’s actually and this brings out the heart of Washington. They’re also self-centered.
Jacob: Sure
Timothy: They can’t see anything beyond their narrow perimeters and what their feelings are and that’s really what we’re getting down to here is they’re all operating on feelings. The evangelical support me, Trump says. Biden says hope and whatever peace or whatever he’s after. So, it all gets wrapped up in that and this isn’t out of the norm. This is his tweets that I watch. Now one tweet he goes, yeah, I got my legal team to go after so and so, right? So, I rebuke that’s like oh yeah, they’re not your legal team number one that belong to the state. Well, then the next tweets after that was, our legal team.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: So, these guys, they do anything but repent because then they’d actually have to humble themselves and love other people. Alright, let’s move on to the next astounding one as we kind of run out of time. This is Senator Patty Murray and this is the abortion issue and by the way, the constitution’s only pro-life, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It’s like right there but that said, Senator Murray, Patty, when she’s talking and this woman is obsessed with abortion. I mean, really it is a mental condition if we had a any honest psychologist left around, you’d say this woman’s got a fixation problem that goes beyond reality. And of course, you go, now how can you possibly say that she’s beyond whatever reality is. Well, that what she says herself. This is what her tweet says. This is what her tweet says and she’s talking about abortion. This is not about facts. This is not about facts or science. It’s about controlling women’s bodies by the overruling medical experts. Senator Patty Murray in one sentence. Just told us facts don’t mean anything to her. It’s only what she wants. What she lusts for and clearly this whole nation is just full of lust. Look how sexualized the schools are. Look at everything going on. Everything’s about a motion. Pity anybody going a jury trial because it’s all about instincts. I and when I say instincts, I mean like brute animals that have no reasoning ability and in fact if you demand there be some reasonability, they get mad at you for saying it’s like a pack of dogs that are all mad and you go okay calm down everybody. What’s that going to do if you do to a pack of dogs Jacob?
Jacob: They’re going to be wild.
Timothy: Yeah, they’re going to go wild. They’re going to go oh hey guys we all need to settle down. Let me read that. Jacob I’m going to let you read it. Do you see it up there?
Jacob: I do.
Timothy: Read it.
Jacob: “This is not about facts or science. It’s about controlling women’s bodies by overruling medical experts”.
Timothy: They’re voting for supporting and Bob Ferguson and Patty Murray by the way are very close let’s say. Equal they like each other. So, these people when you when you look at them just go, they don’t care about facts. They don’t care about science. All they care about is they want what they want. They want to do what they want with their body no matter what. If that means stoning Christians, we stone Christians. If that means we go for grandmas to make them arrange flowers. We that. If that means running a church out of town, we don’t agree with or we don’t understand. We’ll just do that. We want what we want. It doesn’t matter what the facts are or the science. We went through the hate crime. The Enum Claus said, didn’t care about what the facts. They were opposed to actually presenting any fact. It’s all about instinct. They’re just a pack of animals and that’s what the United States is getting ready to become. And I don’t care if you’re getting ready for the end days. You’re not preparing correctly. You’re just going to shoot your neighbor. I mean, it’s all instinct. It’s all survival. Let’s go to Jude verse 10 and we’ll wrap it up with that. It says, yet these men, and in this case, women. “Yet these men and women speak abusively against whatever they do not understand”. King County prosecutors didn’t want the truth. So, they just spoke abusively. They didn’t understand it. They didn’t ask. They didn’t want to know is all instinct. Senator Murray doesn’t want facts. She doesn’t want science. She doesn’t want anybody that’s an actual expert. She just wants what she wants and she speaks abusively against whatever they do not understand and what things they do understand. If there’s any little bit of enlightenment there. They understand by what? Instinct. Instinct. It’s just a gut deep-seated sPaulach reaction like I’m just going to react. Oh yeah, I got a little bit understanding. I’m just going for an after. I know what a treat is. I know what a dog biscuit is. I know what a walk is. So, I understand what a walk is. I understand what those things are. So, I’m just going to do it. Why do you think when you get a bunch of policemen together, it’s just by instinct they shoot? All reasoning just shuts down. Know their avenues are looked at. They can’t examine. That’s who we’re hiring. That’s what we are becoming a nation of a why pack of dogs and we see it in the media, we see it in the jury box, we see it in the prosecution box, we see it in police stations, we see it in the church. Nobody wants to even discuss. They just want what they want. Like “unreasoning animals”, Jude says. “And these are the very things that destroy them”. Alright, let’s pull all of this together now and bring it together on who Trump is and what God is working and let’s conclude this topic. We’ll press on with the events that are coming the next couple years. Jacob, go ahead and play the file there in the video and then we’ll come back to Romans 9:17.
Video (Lady): I just want to hear from you on this. I want to know what’s in your head. When you go to bed at night, do you worry about going to jail?Trump: No, I don’t really. I don’t even think about it. I’m built a little differently I guess because I have had people come up to me and say, how do you do it sir? How do you do it? I don’t even think about it. These are corrupt people that I’m dealing with. They’re destroying our country. I don’t even think about it. All I think about is making the country great, making America great.
Timothy: What we see here is Trump is acknowledging that he’s made differently. I’m going to take him at his word that he doesn’t worry about it. All actions and seem to prove that to be true. Jacob, why don’t you read Romans 9:17 as we kind of conclude here.
Jacob: “For the scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth”.
Timothy: We’ve seen through the last couple shows that God forms all the way in DNA in the womb to what he wants to do. The thing to realize that Trump needs to repent as much as Biden needs to repent. Neither are Godly. God is using both Biden and Trump for his purpose. And there’s a great mistake on either side. If you happen to be a Biden supporter and you think God is on your side and you see God working God is working, but it’s a judgement. Same thing on the Trump side. If you see God working and arranging events or listening to so-called prophecies about him being reelected and he may be re-elected, that’s not the point. The point is that God has formed Trump and Biden in the way that he saw fit for the end days and both will be condemned. Both will be condemned. So don’t be found supporting either one. Just vote and do what you’re going to do or not vote. I don’t know whatever God calls you to do. But know that God has arranged Trump in the way that reflects what this country is. When I think of Trump what are some of the personality things you can think of that he’s unique in?
Jacob: He’s unique.
Timothy: Yeah, for instance his demeanor the way he looks and the way he talks the hair. I mean we go down to fine things the way he repeats things. His basic personality is wouldn’t you say a little oddball although I’m guessing most people think I’m oddball. But what do you think? I think it’s generally out of the norm.
Jacob: Yeah, I mean I think that’s why a lot of people gravitate towards him because he’s not your typical politician. He came from money power. He actually came from TV, right? For years, he was on TV. But he’s not your just average politician, he has like sort of a yeah a a look a charisma a vibe. Definitely, he’s definitely different, I think.
Timothy: Correct, and when you think of Biden, you just think a tired old man. It’s consistent, it’s who he is, nothing particular. Already yeah, the corruption you already know it’s there. But his precinct personality is well he’s corrupted, perverted whatever’s going on but that’s kind of society. That’s really America reflected in its perversion. You look at the laws, you look at the inundation of pornography, you look at all the things that gone, you see the corruption in the judicial system. That’s who Biden represented and that’s exactly what it looks like. Just senile trotting along. Nobody’s really giving any thought to their ways. They’re tripping over everything. Whereas you look for Trump, there’s a personality there. There’s still an activity there. It’s chaotic. There’s no sense you can walk away from that and be kind of at peace with it and that surrounds him has to do with trouble. Another way to put this is to go through all the thing that he’s going through. He would have to be designed in a certain way. There has to be some fundamental DNA. Obviously, the money and all that but even God arranged that. It wasn’t like Trump did all that work himself. God arranged that way up. You got to remember scripture says, God patiently works a destruction of the wicked. So, he’s patiently working a little turn here. We don’t even perceive it. And so, Trump is who Trump is he is as far as I’m concerned extremely unique in his personality, Romans 9:17 says and let’s end with that. “For the scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose”. It’s true Trump is called to specific purpose, but don’t let any disciple of Jesus be found to be supporting that difference. That would be like the Jews when they’re being released from Pharaoh and Egypt saying, well, I vote for Pharaoh. That’s kind of what happen they got all the way out in the desert, didn’t they? And things got a little tough with God, so they were voting for Pharaoh. Things are going to get kind of tough here. We’ve already seen Washington State how it’s brewing, we see how it’s brewing the United States. If Trump gets elected, don’t be found to be voting for him resolve to know only Jesus Christ and whom crucified. Jacob, go ahead and take us on out of here.
Closing: This has been the Consider Podcast at www.archive.consider.info, where yesterday’s folly is today’s madness. In the beginning, the unrepentant sinners words are folly. At the end, they are wicked madness. Ecclesiastes 10:13. Judgement begins with the house of God. Therefore, let everyone who loves the Lord with an undying love. Pick up their cross and walk the talk. As Peter the apostle wrote, “Therefore prepare your minds for action. Be self-controlled”. First Peter 1:13-14. The Consider Podcast, examining today’s events and Paulorrow’s realities. www.archive.consider.info.
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